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	<title>Comments on: Greg Stein On The Impact Of &#8220;Social Coding&#8221;</title>
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	<description>evil genius (tm)</description>
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		<title>By: Mando Escamilla</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/community/2009/02/26/greg-stein-on-the-impact-of-social-coding/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Mando Escamilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  What a great question.  I mean, seriously.  Mad props ;).

Jakub and Greg are both right, which is why services like Github are so crucial and popular.  I can easily (and publicly!) fork any project hosted on Github, make changes, and share them back, all without commit access.  And anyone that&#039;s interested in the primary project can easily see that I&#039;ve forked the project and have changes available that may or may not be folded back into the primary project.

Github isn&#039;t just providing ease of use:  they&#039;re creating a social network of software developers where the social currency is code :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  What a great question.  I mean, seriously.  Mad props <img src='http://whurley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Jakub and Greg are both right, which is why services like Github are so crucial and popular.  I can easily (and publicly!) fork any project hosted on Github, make changes, and share them back, all without commit access.  And anyone that&#8217;s interested in the primary project can easily see that I&#8217;ve forked the project and have changes available that may or may not be folded back into the primary project.</p>
<p>Github isn&#8217;t just providing ease of use:  they&#8217;re creating a social network of software developers where the social currency is code <img src='http://whurley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/community/2009/02/26/greg-stein-on-the-impact-of-social-coding/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if your average consumer was a little more savvy (and they&#039;re getting better--thank you Internets) and knew what to look for in a price/performance ratio, and netbook like Will&#039;s Acer would be ideal for Mom, Pop, Granny, the dog, and emerging markets like Sulamita pointed out.

As for git vs. SVN, our product&#039;s proprietary with a small number of in-house developers.  The dev team uses git, but the rest of the company&#039;s moving to SVN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if your average consumer was a little more savvy (and they&#8217;re getting better&#8211;thank you Internets) and knew what to look for in a price/performance ratio, and netbook like Will&#8217;s Acer would be ideal for Mom, Pop, Granny, the dog, and emerging markets like Sulamita pointed out.</p>
<p>As for git vs. SVN, our product&#8217;s proprietary with a small number of in-house developers.  The dev team uses git, but the rest of the company&#8217;s moving to SVN.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Narębski</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/community/2009/02/26/greg-stein-on-the-impact-of-social-coding/comment-page-1/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub Narębski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;About Git (and other DVCS) and &quot;social coding&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

With distributed version control system you have &#039;private branches&#039;, but in centralized version control systems you have very severe barrier to entry: commit access. So if you complain about &#039;changes in the dark&#039; in DVCS, please take into account that with centralized VCS, because of lack of commit access, they wouldn&#039;t be hard to find: they wouldn&#039;t be visible at all! Your argument here is similar to the RIAA/MPAA argument that each copyright infringement copy is one les bought copy; this is simply not true.

The problem with bolting-on distributed features on top of centralized VCS, like SVK does with Subversion is the &quot;leaky abstraction&quot; problem. SVK is slow, complicated, fragile, does offer replication and off-line commits but not full distribution (where all repositories are at least technically equal). See also http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/article/dvcs-round-one-system-rule-them-all-part-1 and followups</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>About Git (and other DVCS) and &#8220;social coding&#8221;</b></p>
<p>With distributed version control system you have &#8216;private branches&#8217;, but in centralized version control systems you have very severe barrier to entry: commit access. So if you complain about &#8216;changes in the dark&#8217; in DVCS, please take into account that with centralized VCS, because of lack of commit access, they wouldn&#8217;t be hard to find: they wouldn&#8217;t be visible at all! Your argument here is similar to the RIAA/MPAA argument that each copyright infringement copy is one les bought copy; this is simply not true.</p>
<p>The problem with bolting-on distributed features on top of centralized VCS, like SVK does with Subversion is the &#8220;leaky abstraction&#8221; problem. SVK is slow, complicated, fragile, does offer replication and off-line commits but not full distribution (where all repositories are at least technically equal). See also<a href="http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/article/dvcs-round-one-system-rule-them-all-part-1"> </a><a href="http://ldn.linuxfou...rule-them-all-part-1" rel="nofollow">http://ldn.linuxfou&#8230;rule-them-all-part-1</a> and followups</p>
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		<title>By: Sulamita Garcia</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/community/2009/02/26/greg-stein-on-the-impact-of-social-coding/comment-page-1/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>Sulamita Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the notebooks, you may want to consider emerging markets. Here in Brazil for example, for 999 reais you get a basic Celeron based netbook, the same price for some notebooks based on SiS chipsets(enough said). A good netbook (Atom based, SSD and stuff) goes to 1500. A MacBook cost no less than 4500. 

Another interesting fact is that 70% of netbook consumers are women, many of them buy their first own computer. I&#039;m interested in the Vivienne Tam edition :) I think there may be many aspects we don&#039;t see yet, and netbooks or sub-notebooks, they are a good idea, for now. IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the notebooks, you may want to consider emerging markets. Here in Brazil for example, for 999 reais you get a basic Celeron based netbook, the same price for some notebooks based on SiS chipsets(enough said). A good netbook (Atom based, SSD and stuff) goes to 1500. A MacBook cost no less than 4500. </p>
<p>Another interesting fact is that 70% of netbook consumers are women, many of them buy their first own computer. I&#8217;m interested in the Vivienne Tam edition <img src='http://whurley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think there may be many aspects we don&#8217;t see yet, and netbooks or sub-notebooks, they are a good idea, for now. IMHO.</p>
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