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		<title>By: Pret Cisco celta prasība par atvērtā koda licences pārkāpumiem &#124; brīvība.info</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Pret Cisco celta prasība par atvērtā koda licences pārkāpumiem &#124; brīvība.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: program.cgwebstudio.com :: &#187; Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco Systems &#124; whurley</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>program.cgwebstudio.com :: &#187; Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco Systems &#124; whurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the original post: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco Systems &#124; whurley   Posted under Uncategorized, computer, hardware by admin on Thursday 11 December 2008 at 9:20 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: whurley</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>whurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be right Alfonso. I&#039;ve written about the sometimes destructive behavior of the FSF and it&#039;s leadership before:

The Death Of A Software License
http://whurley.com/2007/06/06/the-death-of-a-software-license/

This view upset a lot of people, but you make a very valid point. They may not be that far ahead of Ted Stevens :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right Alfonso. I&#8217;ve written about the sometimes destructive behavior of the FSF and it&#8217;s leadership before:</p>
<p>The Death Of A Software License<a href="http://whurley.com/2007/06/06/the-death-of-a-software-license/"><br />
</a><a href="http://whurley.com...-a-software-license/" rel="nofollow">http://whurley.com&#8230;-a-software-license/</a></p>
<p>This view upset a lot of people, but you make a very valid point. They may not be that far ahead of Ted Stevens <img src='http://whurley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alfonso Guerra</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfonso Guerra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LinkSys makes the GPL code they use available at http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&amp;childpagename=US%2FLayout&amp;cid=1115416836002&amp;pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper (found by entering &quot;site:linksys.com gpl&quot; in Google. It isn&#039;t as if the sources for gcc and binutils are in the slightest bit difficult to locate either.

This ridiculous claim is overreaching. It&#039;s no wonder this camp is known as &#039;freetards&#039; when their behavior creates antipathy for their cause. Are they even aware that there&#039;s an Internet? They&#039;re only half a step ahead of Ted Stevens (good riddance).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LinkSys makes the GPL code they use available at<a href="http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&amp;childpagename=US"> </a><a href="http://www.linksys....amp;childpagename=US" rel="nofollow">http://www.linksys&#8230;.amp;childpagename=US</a>%2FLayout&amp;cid=1115416836002&amp;pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper (found by entering &#8220;site:linksys.com gpl&#8221; in Google. It isn&#8217;t as if the sources for gcc and binutils are in the slightest bit difficult to locate either.</p>
<p>This ridiculous claim is overreaching. It&#8217;s no wonder this camp is known as &#8216;freetards&#8217; when their behavior creates antipathy for their cause. Are they even aware that there&#8217;s an Internet? They&#8217;re only half a step ahead of Ted Stevens (good riddance).</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco Systems &#124; whurley &#187; Free Software</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco Systems &#124; whurley &#187; Free Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: whurley</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>whurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ian,

As far as I know they were just not including with the actual router hardware. However, I&#039;m still reviewing the complaint to see i there&#039;s anything more interesting than that hidden away in it. 

The concern that this could do more harm than good is valid. However, only time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ian,</p>
<p>As far as I know they were just not including with the actual router hardware. However, I&#8217;m still reviewing the complaint to see i there&#8217;s anything more interesting than that hidden away in it. </p>
<p>The concern that this could do more harm than good is valid. However, only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Muir</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For clarification purposes, was Cisco refusing to provide source code or were they just not including with the actual router hardware?

If they were somehow prevent people access to the code, I could see this being a problem. If they&#039;re making the code available (via web or otherwise), but not shipping it with the router this is a bit trickier. I&#039;d be interested to hear if there was any attempt at a resolution before lawsuits were started.

I share your concern that this might not be as helpful as the FSF is hoping. I&#039;ve been trying to get my company to contribute more to open source project and use more open source tools, but things like this tend to make the corporate types nervous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For clarification purposes, was Cisco refusing to provide source code or were they just not including with the actual router hardware?</p>
<p>If they were somehow prevent people access to the code, I could see this being a problem. If they&#8217;re making the code available (via web or otherwise), but not shipping it with the router this is a bit trickier. I&#8217;d be interested to hear if there was any attempt at a resolution before lawsuits were started.</p>
<p>I share your concern that this might not be as helpful as the FSF is hoping. I&#8217;ve been trying to get my company to contribute more to open source project and use more open source tools, but things like this tend to make the corporate types nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: computer software &#124; Digg hot tags</title>
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		<dc:creator>computer software &#124; Digg hot tags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pligg.com</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>pligg.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco Systems...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Free Software Foundation has just announced that it has filed suit against Cisco Systems in the United States District Court (Southern District of Ney York) for violations of the GPL. This blog has commentary (though you can leave your own in the c...</description>
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<p>The Free Software Foundation has just announced that it has filed suit against Cisco Systems in the United States District Court (Southern District of Ney York) for violations of the GPL. This blog has commentary (though you can leave your own in the c&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: whurley</title>
		<link>http://whurley.com/open-source/2008/12/11/free-software-foundation-files-suit-against-cisco-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>whurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that this action doesn&#039;t backfire and create more legal fear, uncertainty, and doubt about using open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that this action doesn&#8217;t backfire and create more legal fear, uncertainty, and doubt about using open source.</p>
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